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After a couple weeks of holidays, Frisco and Scott return to the studio to answer a controversial question: When is the right time to give your kid a smartphone? (Spoiler alert: postpone the inevitable for as long as you can.) Our guest this week is journalist, author, and mother of three Katherine Martinko, whose new book is titled: Childhood Unplugged: Practical Advice to Get Kids Off Screens and Find Balance. Martinko explains why her 14-year-old son still doesn’t have a cell phone — and why plenty of parents wish they had done the same with their own kids. By the time you get through this interview, you’ll probably want to scrap your phone, too. (Except to listen to Inside the Village, of course.)

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